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Jeremy Corbyn on Labour's Defence and Foreign Policy Priorities

Jeremy Corbyn on Labour's Defence and Foreign Policy Priorities



well welcome everybody it's wonderful to see you all here on a Friday my name is Patricia Lewis I'm the research director here at Chatham House for international security and it's my great pleasure to introduce to you today Jeremy Corbyn I'm sure he needs absolutely no introduction to this audience Jeremy as you know was first elected to the House of Commons in 1983 previously he was a local councillor and a trade union organizer in 2015 he was elected leader of the Labour Party on what some might consider a radical platform of increasing wages and rights for workers full commitment to a public national health service free at the point of use and of course what we're here to talk about today an international policy with a strong human rights focus and indeed today that's what we will be talking about and I'm sure many of you have other questions that you want to ask on domestic but if you do I'm going to as chair say please don't ask them and if you do ask them I'm going to suggest to Jeremy that he doesn't need to answer them it's a deal so Jeremy is going to speak first of all and then we'll get into the question answer session just to say that this is on the record and it is being live-streamed so welcome the rest of the world great to have you with us and for Twitter for those of you who want to tweet and want to follow it is hashtag ch Corbin so that's hashtag ch ch stands for Chatham House of course CH Corbin for Jeremy we look forward to what you have to say Patricia thank you very much for that and thank you very much to Chatham House for inviting me here today this is actually a sad day for Chatham House the director dr. Robin LaBelle it can't be here because he's attending the funeral of Michael Williams Lord Williams of bagmen who's recently died of a terrible cancer he was Robin Cook's special envoy advisor and later special envoy at the United Nations and Robin Cook was a great friend of mine and he relied very heavily on Michael Williams for support and advice and I just think we should commemorate that today and understand why our director can't be here but it also send our sympathies to the families the family of Michael on their loss I'd also like to welcome my colleagues from the Shadow Cabinet Emily Thornbury our shadow foreign secretary thank you very much for coming today Emily hot-footed back from Scotland from question time thank you Shami Chakrabarti our shadow Attorney General who's here on the front row who brings a brilliant legal mind to our team and Cato sommore asked shadow secretary State for International Development who gives gives us an understanding and a brilliant passion about the need to deal with conflict at source by ensuring people all are able to lead decent good and sustainable lives and I think my colleagues for all that they do and support they give and as I said I want to thank Chatham House because it's been at the forefront of thinking on Britain's role in the world and clearly today Chatham House Rules don't apply because apparently this is being live-streamed everywhere and so with a general election less than a month away it's a good opportunity to set out my approach and how a Labour government that I lead would keep Britain safe but that is the primary function of government reshape our relationships with partners around the world and crucially work to strengthen the United Nations and respond to global challenges that we all face in the 21st century and I would like to say a very warm welcome to the UN special presented from Somalia who is here today where are you sitting thank you very much thank you thank you for coming along and your your colleague your advisor my great friend Nura Dean Diddy thank you so much for being here today it's wonderful to see you both and anybody else I haven't referenced who I know consider to consider yourselves welcomed okay on Monday we commemorated Victory in Europe day the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in Europe VE Day marked the defeat of fascism and the beginning of the end of a global war that had claimed 70 million lives just think of that figure 70 million lives were lost in the Second World War General Eisenhower supreme commander of the Allied forces in 1944 who was based right here in this square preparing the plan for that invasion of Operation Overlord later went on to become Republican president the United States during some of the most dangerous years of the Cold War in the 1950s his final televised address the American people as president was fascinating and he gave a very stark warning of what he described as the acquisition of unwarranted influence by the military-industrial complex and he went on to say only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machine of Defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and Liberty may prosper together sadly it's more than 70 years since he made that speech sadly in more than half a century I think it's clear that Eisenhower's warning has not been heeded too much of our debate about defense and security is one-dimensional you're either for or against what is presented has strong defense regardless of the actual record of what is meant in practice alert citizens or political leaders who advocate other routes to security are often dismissed or treated as unreliable my own political views were shaped by my parents description of the horrors of war and the threat of nuclear holocaust indeed my parents met whilst organizing solidarity with the elected government of Spain against Franco's fascists during the Spanish Civil War which were of course supported by Hitler and the Nazis my generation grew up under the shadow of the Cold War our black and white televisions throughout the 50s and 60s and into the 70s was dominated by Vietnam as a young person I was haunted by images of civilians fleeing chemical weapons used by the United States I didn't imagine that nearly 50 years later we would still see chemical weapons being used against innocent civilians what object failure indeed I met recently a Vietnam War veteran who had been involved in using Agent Orange and is still traumatized by that experience how is it the history keeps repeating itself at the end of the Cold War when the Berlin Wall came down we were told it was the end of history global leaders promised a more peaceful stable world it didn't quite work out like that today the world is more unstable than even at the height of the Cold War the approach to international security we've been using since the 1990s simply has not worked regime change wars in Afghanistan Iraq Libya Syria and Western interventions in Afghanistan Somalia and Yemen haven't always succeeded in their own terms sometimes they've made the world a more dangerous place this is the fourth general election in a row to be held while Britain is at war and our armed force is interaction our reaction in the Middle East and beyond the fact is that the war on terror has been driven which has driven these interventions has not succeeded it has not increased our security at home in fact many would say just the opposite it's caused destabilization and devastation abroad and last September the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Select Committee published a report on the Libyan war which David Cameron as Prime Minister promoted to I intervention they concluded the intervention led to political and economic collapse humanitarian and migrant crisis and fueled the rise of Isis in Africa and across the Middle East is that really the way to deliver security for our people the people in Britain who seriously believes that's what real strength looks like we need to step back and have I think some fresh thinking the world faces huge problems as well as the legacy legacy of regime change wars there is a dangerous cocktail of ethnic conflicts food insecurity water scarcity and fast emerging effects of climate change and to that mix add a grotesque and growing level of inequality in which just eight billionaires eight billionaires owned the same wealth as 3.6 billion of the poorest people on our planet and you end up with a refugee crisis of epic proportions affecting every continent in the world with more displaced people in the world than since the second world war indeed there are some estimates that think there are more displaced people now than at any time in recorded history these problems are getting worse and they are fueling threats and instability the global situation is becoming more dangerous and the new United States president seems sadly determined to add to the dangers by recklessly escalating the confrontation with North Korea unilaterally launching missile strikes on Syria and opposing what was a great achievement as President Obama's nuclear arms deal with Iran and the suggestion he's backing a new nuclear arms race a Labour government will want a strong and friendly relationship with the United States but we will not be afraid to speak our mind the United States is the strongest military power on the planet by a very long way it has a special responsibility to use its power with care and to support international efforts to resolve conflicts collectively and peacefully waiting to see which way the wind blows in Washington isn't strong leadership and pandering to an erratic administration will not deliver stability so when Theresa may address the Republican Party conference in Philadelphia in January she spoke in alarmist terms about the rise of China and India and the danger of the West being eclipsed she said America and Britain had to stand together and use their military might to protect their interests that's the sort of language that led us into the calamities in Iraq and Libya and other disastrous wars that stole the post-cold-war promise of a new and peaceful world order I do not see India and China in those terms nor do I think to the vast majority of Americans or British people want the boots of their young men and women on the ground in Syria fighting a war that could escalate the suffering and slaughter even further Britain deserves better than simply outsourcing our country's security and prosperity to the whims of the Trump White House so no more hand-holding the Donald Trump a Labour government will conduct a robust and independent foreign policy made in Britain a Labour government would seek to work for peace and security we'll all with all the other permanent members of the United Nations Security Council the United States China Russia and France and with other countries to play a major role such as India South Africa Brazil and Germany we have to reach out and work with others the philosophy bomb first talk later approach to security has failed to assist with it as the conservative governor's made clear it's determined to do is a recipe for increasing not reducing threats and security I'm often asked if Prime Minister I would order the use of nuclear weapons it's an extraordinary question when you think about it would you order the indiscriminate killing of millions of people would you risk such contamination of the planet that no life could exist across large parts of the world if circumstances arose where there was a real option it would represent a complete and cataclysmic failure it would mean world leaders had already triggered a spiral of catastrophe for hand mine from the humankind labor is committed to actively pursue disarmament under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and were committed to no first use of nuclear weapons but let me make this absolutely clear collected primarily stuff I would do everything to protect the security and safety of our people in our country that is our first duty and to achieve it I know would have to work with other countries to solve problems defuse tensions and build collective security the best defence best defence is for Britain is a government actively engaged in seeking political solutions to the world's problems it doesn't make me a pacifist I accept that military action under international law as a genuine last resort is in some circumstances necessary but that is very far from the kind of unilateral wars and interventions that have become almost routine in recent times I'll not take lectures and security or humanitarian action from a Conservative Party that stood by in the 1980s refusing even to impose sanctions while children and the streets of Soweto were being shot down shot down or which is back to every move our armed forces have put in harm's way regardless of the impact on our people's security once again in this election it's been come clear that a vote for the Conservatives be a vote to escalate the war in Syria risking military confrontation with Russia adding to the suffering of the Syrian people and increasing global insecurity when you see children suffering in war it's only natural to want to do something but the last thing we need is more of the same failed recipe that served us so badly and the people of the region so calamitous Lee labor will stand up for the people of Syria we will press for war crimes to be properly investigated and worked tirelessly to make the Geneva talks work every action that is taken over Syria must be judged by whether it helps to bring an end to the tragedy the appalling tragedy of the Syrian war or does the opposite even if Isis is defeated militarily the conflict will not end until there is a negotiated settlement involving all the main parties including the regional and international powers and an inclusive government in Iraq all wars and conflicts eventually are brought to an end by political means so labor would adopt a new approach will not step back from our responsibilities but our focus will be on strengthening international cooperation and supporting the efforts of the United Nations to resolve conflicts a Labour government will respect international law and oppose lawlessness and unilateralism in international relations we believe passionately human rights and justice should drive our foreign policy in the 1960s Harold Wilson's Labour government worked for and signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty as Prime Minister I hope to build on that achieve movement labor supports the renewals Trident system doesn't preclude from working for meaningful multilateral steps to achieve reductions in nuclear arsenals a Labour government will pursue a triple commitment to the interlocking foreign policy instruments of Defense development and diplomacy for all their bluster the Tory record and defence of security has been one frankly of incompetence and failure they balance the books on the backs of servicemen and women deep cuts have been made in the army reduce it with smallest size since the Napoleonic Wars stagnant pay worsening conditions poor housing the morale of our service personnel and veterans is a rock bottom and as the security threats and challenges we face and not bound by geographical borders it's vital that as Britain leaves the European Union we maintain a close relationship with our European partners alongside NATO to suspect keep spending at 2% but that means working with our allies to ensure peace and security in Europe we will work to halt the drift towards confrontation with Russia and the escalation of military deployments across the continent there's no need whatsoever to weaken our very strong opposition to Russia's human rights abuses at home or abroad but understand the necessity of winding down tensions on the russia-nato book NATO border and supporting dialogue to reduce the risk of international conflict we'll back a new conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe and seek to defuse the crisis in the Ukraine through implementation of the Minsk agreements we'll continue to work with the European Union on operational missions to promote and support global and regional security this means our armed forces will have the necessary capabilities to fulfill the full range of obligations ensuring they're versatile and able to participate rapid stabilization disaster relief UN peacekeeping and conflict resolution activities because security is not only about direct military defence it's about conflict resolution and Prevention's underpinned by strong diplomacy so the next Labour government will invest in our diplomatic network and consular services we will seek to rebuild some of the key capabilities and services have been lost as a result of conservative cuts in recent years such as the loss of human rights advisors in so many of our embassies around the world and finally while tourism a seeks to build a coalition of risk and insecurity with Donald Trump a Labour government will refocus Britain's influence towards cooperation and peaceful settlements and social justice the life chances Security and Prosperity of our citizens are dependent on a stable international environment we will strengthen our commitment to the United Nations but are well aware of its shortcomings particularly in the light of repeated abuses of the veto power in the UN Security Council so we'll work with allies and partners from around the world to build support the United Nations reform in order to make its institutions more effective and more responsive and as a permanent member of the Security Council will provide ally by respecting the authority of international work law to lead this work labor has created a Minister for peace who will work across the Ministry of Defence and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office will reclaim Britain's leading role in tackling climate change working hard to preserve the Paris agreement and deliver on international commitments to reduce carbon emissions will re-examine the arms export licensing regulations to ensure that all British arms exports are consistent with our legal and our moral obligations this means refusing to grant export licenses for arms where there's a clear risk they'll be used to commit serious violations of international humanitarian War law weapons supplies to Saudi Arabia when the evidence of grave breaches of humanitarian law in Yemen is overwhelming must be halted immediately as emily has made very clear many times in Parliament I see it as the next Labour government's task my task to make the case for Britain to advise a security and foreign policy with integrity and human rights at its core so as a clear choice of this election between continuing with a failed policy of continual and devastating interventions that have intensified conflicts and increased the terrorist threat or being willing to step back learn the lessons of the past and find new ways to solve and prevent conflicts Dwight Eisenhower said on another occasion if people can develop weapons that are so terrifying as to make the thought of global war almost a sentence for suicide you would think that man's intelligence would include also his ability to find a peaceful solution and in the words of another American Martin Luther King the chain reaction of evil hate begetting hate wars produce more Wars must be broken all should be plunged into the dark days of annihilation I believe we can find those solutions we can walk the hard yards to a better way to live together on this planet a Labour government will give leadership in a new and constructive way and that is the leadership we're ready to provide both at home and abroad thank you very much thank you very much indeed Jeremy and before going to the floor and first of all to our membership um I have proper t'v to ask you a couple of questions sure so first of all and when you're in the UN and as a permanent member of the Security Council to make things work you need to have agreement with all five permanent members of the Security Council and they are protecting others so you need to do deals across the board and often with countries with very poor human rights records in order to achieve what you want to achieve so how does that square with a foreign policy that's based on human rights that's based on an ethical approach how do you manage to square the method and the end the end results you have to measure your policy against the human rights records that we want and the obligations that all five of the permanent members the security council signed up to through the Universal Declaration and through the International Criminal Court which is not Universal but we wished it were and the other conventions such as rights the child rights of women and rights of environmental survival I think you have to engage with all those countries on it and indeed there is evidence that where you do engage things begin to change the engagement with China on environmental issues has changed Chinese attitudes quite a lot and also I suspect the high levels of pollution in Chinese cities has probably changed attitudes quite a lot it is a question of being prepared to engage it's not always lecturing people it's learning from them as well but it's also recognizing that we can't go on as a planet just presiding over this grotesque levels of inequality and accepting that there are tens of millions of displaced people and refugees trying to survive often in the poorest countries in the world the numbers who come to Europe by comparison the rest of world are actually quite small but the disaster often affects the poorest in the poorest countries in the world think what it's like to be in a festering in a refugee camp in Libya other places just trying to survive so the five members the permanent five Program Security Council do have a special responsibility in this and you do have to engage with them so I would want to engage with Russia on human rights issues just as much as I would with China or any other country Thanks and then as you know people have come to expect and welcome your letters from citizens to Prime Minister Quest Prime Minister's Questions so we thought we'd take a leaf out of your book okay and which citizen has written to us so it's a poor letter from Cheltenham mm-hmm and she's addressing something that you haven't talked about and she said pleat dave22 please could you ask mr. Corbyn what he would do to increase cyber security in the UK and at the same time making sure that we keep our privacy online and our defended from attackers cyber security is a very good question it's actually probably the greatest threat that's faced all around the world at the present time because cyberattacks can disable Transport Systems disable communications disable media interfere apparently in elections in some countries there's lots of things I'm making no suggestions of anything in this country is okay put your pens down quickly but it's a very it's a very good question and it is a very serious one and so you have to ensure that we've got the capability to deal with cyber attacks against our crucial infrastructure our crucial infrastructure which is of course telephone mobile phones and all the other things but there is also the question of surveillance and indeed we have challenged the government on this over the question of the right of universal intrusion into people's emails which i think is to be totally wrong as a member of the Justice Select Committee we had these discussions with the European Union during many delegations and visits we have there and we did put forward appropriative members the recent legislation in the house so that would protect the privacy of the individual but recognise that cyberattacks are real and extremely dangerous listen we live in a very high-tech complicated world where if you interfere with security system surrounding power supplies or anything else then you actually endanger life very very quickly you couldn't kill people very quickly without firing any kind of gun or anything else this is the challenge of our time and I think it's time that we all faced up to a very good question Thank You Paulette I'll catch you later of cheltenham of challenge capture show that address is significant oh well I guess I wasn't going to make any reference to what you have indelicately made okay so I'm now going to our membership and I'm looking for people at the back primarily who are young and of any gender they wish to be so can i encourage people to hahaha as you get your turn so you looking only young only young members get you asking questions that what you say yeah not quite I just want to start off the questioning perhaps with the voice from the future so is there anyone new zhenya I'm going to call on you as a as our first speaker thank you very much my name is aina you're wicked I won the US in the Americas program here at Chatham House um you've laid out a platform that is almost the antithesis of the platform that's been laid out by Donald Trump you've expressed that there would be no intention of hand-holding the Americans or the American president um but you also have to recognize their huge links between the United States and the United Kingdom economic links intelligence links how are you going to pass those two things on the one hand excuse me very publicly saying that I fundamentally disagree with many of the positions taken by this administration but on the other hand trying to ensure that there's the economic engagement the investment engagement the intelligence engagement continues I'm sorry talk too much before and so if I can go to this gentleman here in the white shirt in the third row back wait for the microphone can you say who you are when you introduce yourself please thank you hello my name is max nicholson I'm a postgraduate unit Kings College and what future would the intelligence community in the UK have under a Labour government and also would you seek to make changes to the investigatory powers out thank you and then the gentleman here um behind you Thanks thank you a Sean Curtin member of Chatham House on the hand-holding point you said no more hand-holding with the Donald Trump but I don't see that there's anything wrong with two men in this day and age holding hands in public and listening to your speech I think that actually there are many points that you and Trump have in common you both described the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a catastrophe and your commitment to the renewing of trident and to spending at least 2% of GDP on defense will I presume get Trump to want to hold your hand but my question is the one area which you really seem to focus on in your speech with North Korea you seem to be very critical approach so I'd like you to just flesh out what is your approach to North Korean problem thank you thanks and thanks those questions um the approach to on the first question was the US and so one US trade I can't read my own writing this problem well quite clearly we have a very close relationship with the United States we have a cultural relationship we have a trade relationship and we had ever since the first world war a military relationship with the United States does that mean that we always agree with every US president no not at all the British government at the time whilst politically supportive the Americans in Vietnam didn't commit British troops to it and everyone would suggest there was some degree of criticism implicit in that does it mean you can't have a relationship with them no I think it's the opposite I think you have a relationship and you might say it's critical but it's also not just for the US president is day-to-day relationships with members of the House and then was the Senate as well as all the other different communities across the USA and so I have been in the USA many times met huge numbers of people who diverse political opinions you work you work with them all but the relationship of the USA is an important one and obviously something we would want to maintain on the question of our investigative powers act and end intelligence community yes we would obviously maintain GCHQ and we would ensure that the powers of investigation into the citizen are backed up by a legal process we would not give unaccountable power of investigation into somebody's life and so if the authorities want to investigate the streams of emails whatever else they have to get a legal legal aking unable to do it we don't want to create a surveillance society where there is untrammeled power of interference in the lives of the individual or of their privacy thanks for your point about hand-holding obviously a Labour government would meet with President Trump and would have discussions with him and you raise the point about North Korea well I am very clear that the nuclear non-proliferation treaty is important and must be made to work but there are a number of nuclear-armed countries that don't have membership of the NPT North Korea being one of them six-party talks were making a great deal of progress the only way forward in the crisis in over relations between the United States and Korea has to be a resumption of the six-party talks has to be encouraging and thanking China for what it's done so far in trying to defuse tensions and also working with the South Korean government at the same time because the idea that one would countenance the bombing of the people of North Korea or of North Korea sending missiles that would kill others is absolutely poorly so there has to be development of relationship now the Obama administration seems to be moving in the direction of building closer relations and trying to develop some sort of dialogue with North Korea I think that is a wholly good idea and we should encourage that and that is what I would encourage that we do one advantage Britain has is that we have a tradition of assuming diplomatic relations with countries that have an effective government that means we do have relations and I think it's important that we develop that principle I'll take a couple of questions here mr. Kovic John Pina BBC News what do you say to voters who support the British nuclear deterrent when you've made clear you would never order its use either first or in retaliation you have made that clear haven't you and what do you say to you supporters of British military power when it's not clear in what circumstances you would ever order forces into battle in or out of NATO and including strikes against Islamic state and if I could balance peacefully morning Jeremy Rachael younger from ITV News and you say military action in some circumstances is necessary you opposed it in both Kosovo and Sierra Leone in retrospect were those interventions the right thing to do and in four weeks time you could be not just Prime Minister but also de-facto commander-in-chief when you think about the enormity of the office is that the part of the job that scares you most thanks and then last question over here you mentioned the problem of the vetoes how else would you seek legitimacy for action and what's your attitude to responsibility to protect in a humanitarian crisis thanks and John the question about our security is obviously the paradigms I've made that very clear Emily's made that clear in her statements as has NIR and others clearly the importance is to protect people all of our people to make sure they're not under any kind of threat does that mean that the you up there are ultimately some circumstances where you use military force yes there are and I think back to our history many in this room well none of these written OD this room was around at the time of the first world war but I'm sure many would have questioned or questioned its legitimacy in its whole approach I doubt many if any in this room would have questioned the legitimacy ultimately of the Second World War because of the catastrophe that it approached by the rise of the Nazis or all across Europe at that point and so I think there has to be ultimately that preparedness to use military force now the question that was raised also continuing your theme concerning for example Kosovo and Sierra Leone the situation in Kosovo is not good could it have been dealt with in a different way and could a bit a different approach yes I believe they could on Sierra Leone there was actually quite wide agreement on the principles behind it but there has to be a follow-up as well and the follow-up has to be the kind of support and nation-building you give at the end and there have been places I've been to where there has been UN backed military action in order to bring about or ensure a peace fire a ceasefire and continued development that country I was for example a UN observer at the East Timor referendum which had come at the end of an appalling Civil War that had gone on for decades with tens of thousands of people lost their lives and that military UN intervention to enforce the ceasefire by and large worked and I think you have to be aware that there are cases where you can do that but it has to be done on a basis of law and it has to be done through the United Nations on the question of vetoes and responsibility to protect I'm interested in the responsibility to protect issue and arguments again I think it has to be backed up by international law and backed up via the United Nations I have also been in Rwanda and Burundi and the DRC and the war in the DRC has claimed probably more lives than any other conflict that has happened since the Second World War it has not had the attention of the world's media it has not had the concentration of the world's media and the killing has gone on rape has become instrument of war in the DRC and indeed I've been in Gomer meeting hundreds of women who were collective victims of rape and it was the most dramatic and educate of experience of my life just to talk to them could something have been done yes could we've done more to promote a ceasefire yes could we have done more to challenge blood diamonds coltan and all the other things that were brought out of DRC yes why didn't we many many questions I asked one of which is the economic interests of people that didn't want us to intervene because they were getting the wealth out of there could something have been done to intervene at the time of the genocide in Rwanda yes I believe it could and indeed I've met people in both Rwanda and Burundi who feel very better to this day that more was not done and again there seem to be an assumption that a war in Africa is somehow other different to something on the on the on the edges of Europe and so I think we have to engage we also have to engage positively afterwards because if you think of nations that have come out of conflict take Colombia take El Salvador Colombia decades and decades of civil war eventually by good action by neighboring countries ceasefire was produced and a peace process has developed but if you don't stay the course afterwards as happened in El Salvador those that were formerly protagonists in a civil war then end up in criminal gangs and you have a similar degree of killing an instability this time for crime rather than the purposes of engagement in that civil war so it is about engagement but it's also about use of the UN and international law my question mark is over unilateral action at all so just for those who couldn't hear because it wasn't on my friend sorry the question was about whether I found that part of the job the most frightening not at all I want to see a peaceful world I've spent my life wanting to see a peaceful world I spent my life working for the human rights of all and ensuring that everybody has some chance in life if you don't mind one slight anecdote I will met a group of refugees in a refugee camp in Syria before the present conflict broke out and these were people living in tents on the border of Iraq and Syria in appalling appalling conditions they deserve better and I was talking to this 14-year old girl and her family one of whom had died because the tents had burnt down about I said what do you want to achieve in your life and this child in attempt in the middle of misery and everything else she said thank you for your question I want to be a doctor Wow she have ambitions you see those all over the world and so the opportunity of leading a government that will help to promote international law will address issues of global imbalance and insecurity and will be realistic about terrorist threats realistic about threats of cyber insecurity is something actually I relish because because our task surely has to be to leave the world better and more peaceful for the next generation rather than more dangerous and more at war the next generation you have to deal with the problems all over you have to deal with them in an international multilateral way we are very popular everyone wants to ask you a question and John wants of is it a motivation at all john sees me almost every John Peter sees me almost every day mr. Corbyn but you're causing upsets with Sky News the congenial side trouble in your mates John in that case I'm going to go to army briefing the sake of clarification if I if I know can we get out for a second mr. Corbyn you mentioned John's coming move on please all right it's unfair on the rest of you there's a lady in the front in the third row back in the red jackets always wear rest if you want to be noticed is that what it is yeah that seems to be a trick that works yeah um my name is Dorothy Guerrero I'm head of policy and advocacy from Global justice now my question are two actually one is on climate considering that the policy of President Trump seems to be bent on making or making it more difficult for the for the even minimum agreements in the Paris cop impossible what will be what will be your position on that second is on the South China Sea considering the Golden Age of relationship with China and the historical relationship with the US what will be the difference in the UK policy on South China Sea I knew you'd ask good questions at the back please thank you very much Saud eldery I'm a researcher with the Middle East North Africa program at Chatham House you mentioned the need to have human rights at the heart of UK foreign policy and you also mentioned the need to work and support a work towards and support a peaceful peace agreement in Syria but we know that the Assad regime in Syria has systematically persecuted this population and conducted human rights abuses on a mass scale so it cannot ask you to clarify your position on the future of an Assad regime in Syria okay and then last question here from um mr. Corben Jason bockscar news if you become Prime Minister next month will you immediately withdraw the RAF from sautés in Syria and Iraq and if it's better to talk rather than bomb what would you say to Isis okay um first of all on the point asked about climate change i more than regret the language president Trump used during his election campaign about the global threats of climate change and environmental degradation around the world and I did indeed attend the Paris conference on climate change for a short time myself and we have to be totally realistic that unless we are to take even more serious action than we do now on emissions on pollution and on environmental degradation then obviously lots of life on the planet is under threat we already have conflicts and Wars based on environmental disasters we have to be prepared to do far more to sustain our natural world in our environment refugees from Darfur have got involved in a conflict in fact they're basically environmental refugees and there are many many other examples around the world and so we would adhere absolutely to it and indeed the last Labour government was very strong in supporting all the international conventions both on pollution as well as on co2 emissions and the effects of global warming and so I would be very strong on those issues and indeed and have been involved in many campaigns on those for a very long time we can't go on polluting our seas at the end we pollute ourselves if we if we carry on doing that the issue about South China Sea yes there are obviously problems with China's behavior there has to be pressure put on them there has to be an agreement reached you cannot just say because it's China you can't anything to them you have to do something about it China wants to be part of the world community we all want everybody to be part of the world community therefore that means putting UN pressure on them over their activities in the in the in the South China Sea on the the question that was raised at the back about human rights as a central foreign policy of course it is and I absolutely agree with you the Assad regime has committed the most appalling human rights abuses as have other forces within the region there has to be a political process that political process must also involve Iran Geneva 1 didn't work because Iran wasn't involved Geneva 2 or if it now to be Geneva 3 must involve all the actors within the region including Iran and I find it more than regrettable that President Trump now seems to be trying to tear up the agreement that was the President Obama's government and others and so painstaking negotiated with Iran which also had with it the possibilities of improving human rights in Iran by a human rights negotiation process and that's got to be always got to be important on the what we'll do over re F presence and sorties would examine what they're doing straightaway examine what their presence is straightaway but above all that fits in to the whole point I'm saying that I would do everything I possibly could in order to reignite the proto peace process to ensure that there is a Geneva 3 dealing with the conflict in Syria and clearly isolating Isis is very important their arms and their money don't come from nowhere they are being supported by a lot of people who are pouring money and arms into them and so those people that are being whose lives are being destroyed by Isis and its behavior need to also be recognized that the people that in effect are killing them are those that are giving money arms and allowing them to sell oil which funds the whole Isis there has to be a comprehensive political and economic approach to the would you look at introducing a new financial tracking approach then in the way that the United States is a much stronger financial tracking approach is very very important because if you don't do that you don't know where the money's coming from where it's going to and the amounts of money floating around the world that have come from international drug dealers and others not so much in Syria but other perhaps the world again there has to be financial tracking and approach to that would be we'd have very vigorous rigorous some financial tracking mechanism no I've made that clear that I know I would want to bring about a political solution which would be through the Geneva process there's a woman in the green shirt a woman in a green shirt hi hello Tinky hmm I'm Debra Haines from The Times um you talked about how you would support the the Trident system does that mean that you as Prime Minister would back a like-for-like replacement of the four submarines well they could I ask a second question sorry Anya and which conflict that had had british troops deployed to and since the end of the Second World War have you actually supported peace okay I'll go on now to the woman in the back there thank you I'm Margaret own a piece in Kurdistan Jeremy you're a great friend of the Kurds and they're grateful to you what will be the Labour government's policy towards Turkey will it condemn the genocide it is going on against the Kurds in Syria and in Turkey will it do anything to renew the peace process ensure the Kurds are represented at the Geneva thing and will you actually review the arms sales and actually review arms sales to countries which violate human rights will you condemn that turkey for this thank you and then gentlemen over here on the left please thank you my name is Yuri police um High Commissioner of Cyprus thank you for the two Tories on a few words on brexit please in relation to defense and foreign policy thank you and then in the white shirt is it white katsu mr. gorban I delivered a letter on Wednesday to the prime minister I'm a former Marine and we are concerned about the cuts to defense since 2010 freedom isn't free and I know there's been conflict so we've got into that have necessarily been successful in Iraq and Afghanistan but the security of our liberal democracy depends on the strong defence will you therefore guarantee you will fully fund the defence SDSR 2015 and you will increase defense spending from the cuts that happened from 2010 and undermined our ability to preserve our freedom in the future thank you um thanks thanks the questions on deployment of British troops yes there are deployments largely through the United Nations that I think are the right thing to do I mentioned what went on these team orders been the great help done in peacekeeping in Cyprus by British forces there's also been I think incredible work done by Royal Marines and and others in helping refugees to survive have been at risk in the Mediterranean and indeed talking to people in the Royal Navy about this someone has said to me it was the most amazing work I've ever done in their lives which was actually supporting and protecting protecting life on the question that Margaret raised about about Kurdistan the Kurdish people would deny their identity by the conclusion of the Treaty of Versailles and they're still living with the consequences of that an independent Kurdistan was originally recognized in Woodrow Wilson fourteen points and then obliterated a few years later and as that searched for that identity of the Kurdish people indeed there are many Kurdish people of my constituency and I've visited various times my life all parts of Kurdistan and witnessed the way in which Kurdish people have been very very badly treated and that indeed as then provoked the backlash of war there and I would be very strong with the Turkish government on its treatment of Kurdish people and minorities and the way in which it's denied them their decency and human rights and use all the legal powers we have on that and also if arms are being used to oppress people internally in violation of international law then they should simply not be supplied to them and any settlement in Syria and the Middle East must include recognition of the rights and needs of Kurdish people Armenians and others because if you suppress somebody's identity which is what's happened with the Kurdish people then you actually end up with the danger of a much greater conflict later on it is a question about recognizing people's language and their identity which is I think an important part towards peace the point our friend raised from the Cyprus High Commission nice to see you here two points I make first that I support Reda fication of Cyprus and the talks to bring that about and Britain has a special role in this because it's a guarantor of the 1960 independence of Cyprus and you and I have discussed this on a number of occasions and we would certainly be very very active in bring that about Emily and I indeed have discussed that with you on foreign policy on brexit yes we we will want to work with people we will obviously be still be members of the Council of Europe we will obviously still be part of the organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe which I see as a very very important instrument of promoting peace and security all across Europe and the point our friend raised from the Royal Marines yeah I probably noticed it in my own speech I made a point about the way in which members the Armed Forces have often had pay frozen those that are leaving the Armed Forces do not get in my view the support they need on leaving the Armed Forces and too many of our former soldiers end up in a very very difficult situation indeed so I would look very quickly at the welfare issues surrounding the surrounding our armed forces but also your point about the funding of your group the Royal Marines and others is a very important one because actually it's that capability of defending is more is them is the most important and I would recognize that and support that when you said you delivered a lecture I thought you couldn't say you delivered a letter to me and I can remember whether it's seeing it give you if I can have a copy I'd be most grateful thank you like well the decision of Parliament was to endorse the government's proposal for the replacement of Trident that is the decision we will inherit as a Labour government and that is what the position is we will also undertake a strategic defence review as all incoming government's to look at all aspects of our defense priorities for the future but we cannot obviously decide what a review would decide otherwise you would never review this and I'm really sorry but we have to end it here and I know everyone's got far more questions and I think that's a measure of the success of the event I'd like to thank you Jeremy for making Chatham House the venue where you made your foreign policy and defence speech thank you for being so forthcoming thank you for answering as many questions as possibly could thank you very much you

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  1. Idealistic, empty shell talk, incoherent logic, wrong correlations and pretentious assumptions. Extremely interventionist wrapped in sweet words without proper argumentation.

  2. Somehow I can't imagine Chatham House releasing such an ineptly edited and filmed item about Theresa May. Fix it for god's sake, no way you only had the one camera there.

  3. Impressive. Watch even just the first five minutes of Jeremy Corbyn at Chatham House. Forget the lies and bile that the 'mainstream' media spoon-feed us about this man they hate, whose policies they despise. Make up your own mind. Just watch and listen. Isn't this the kind of leader Britain needs and deserves?

  4. Already won me just by being the only geezer to point out the blatent hypocrisy of polarised for and against in geopolitical we all seem to live by thesedays.

  5. Jesus, who directed this?! The camera was on the lady for the first 5 mins, and the camera clearly got bored and moved back to chairs before Corbyn was even finished, did he just wanna go home 2 minutes early?

  6. He is a great leader and a great peacemaker too. Indeed, what wise and comforting words from a grate-man. I hope he becomes Britain's' next prime minister.

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